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Hi folk,

If any of you are interesting in buying my art as a print, or sticker, or phone case, notebook, bag, t-shirt, whatever,
then check out my Redbubble store at 

www.redbubble.com/people/artth…

Also if you see something here in my gallery that you'd like to buy as a print but it's not available, let me know and I'll try to make it happen.

Thanks for checking out my art,

Matt

P.S If you do happen to mosey on over to RedBubble and buy some of my art, I'd double-appreciate it if you'd let me know by leaving a comment on this post, just so's I know if my art is actually connecting with people :) 

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Matt Baker
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marielcatdragon Featured By Owner 3 days ago  Hobbyist Digital Artist
^^
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shunter071 Featured By Owner May 10, 2018  New Deviant Hobbyist General Artist
Awesome work!
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PrisonerOnEarth Featured By Owner May 13, 2018  Professional Digital Artist
Thanks for the encouragement, I'm glad you like my work!
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shunter071 Featured By Owner May 13, 2018  New Deviant Hobbyist General Artist
Anytime!
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uncledon Featured By Owner Feb 1, 2018


I have used one of your works.
You have given permission to others to use your material if not for profit and this is not.
I do not think that you will find a great deal of my other works to your liking as based on the majority of your own it appears we are possibly on the opposite ends of that spectrum.
I have taken the time to provide you with notice and have given credit for it.
While I might disagree I think that you are talented and expressive as well as moderate if you do focus solely on the 'pleasing' aspects of the ideology an avoid such very unpleasant segments as 1 Samuel 15:1-35, Judges 11 : 30 - 39 or Luke 19:27.
Food for thought.
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PrisonerOnEarth Featured By Owner Feb 7, 2018  Professional Digital Artist
I focus on the pleasing aspects because my illustrations are for kids, not adults. 
It's okay to disagree, although I think you're missing the most important thing, which is that Jesus loved us all so much that he died for our sake, and preached forgiveness, grace and redemption.
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PrisonerOnEarth Featured By Owner Feb 7, 2018  Professional Digital Artist
Thanks for letting me know and doing the right thing.
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uncledon Featured By Owner Edited Feb 9, 2018

Unfortunately I do not completely accept your claim that “I focus on the pleasing aspects because my illustrations are for kids, not adults” when you draw and post images such as ‘Gideon: the original 300’ that displays the violence of war and slaughter something I am more than familiar with after 22 years’ service in the US Marines starting in Vietnam. There you assert that this was “WAY before the Spartans tried it” when in fact you have no idea as to when or where that alleged battle was supposed to have taken place and are merely pretending that you do since the only place that this event is mentioned at all is in the bible. There is nothing in the archaeological record or any extra biblical sources that confirms the existence of this person or any such battle. However there is a wealth of objective, verified documentation from several early Greek states as well as the records from the Persian Empire itself confirming that the Battle of Thermopylae took place in a specific location in August or September of 480 BCE.

 

As this is a well-documented fact that has serious supporting materials backing it up and the myth you are asserting is real has nothing but a story in a book well-documented to by extremely out of sync with reality your claim is dismissed. In general circles something of this sort is called purposeful deception based on mythological belief or more commonly termed ‘l***g for jesus’ in various circles.

 

If you are offended by that phrase then by all means please present verifiable extra-biblical sources that demonstrate that the book of Judges chapters 6-8 relate events based in objective reality and I will be more than happy to apology in the most profound terms.

 

 

Furthermore I think that you are not being completely honest considering the content of ‘Crucifixion Page Colour’ where you graphically display torture and a crucifixion which is among the most barbaric forms of execution alongside of the stoning to death commonly prescribed throughout your book. However you cannot avoid presenting this tale of monstrous barbarism as without it you cannot sell the idea on which your entire mythology is founded, that of magical resurrection, now can you? Or do you apply further deception and perhaps downplay the real extent of the fable so as not to scare off your future converts by telling them ‘well the Romans teased and mocked jesus before they tied [more spin right] him to the cross and after a while he died of…a heart attack like grandpa, yeah that’s it’?

 

This is part of a ‘comic’ so who was the intended audience I ask? At what age do you think this is appropriate after you have spoon fed impressionable children with the fabricated myths that your ideology is based on until they cannot think outside the box at all? Sorry but I see this as a clear indication that you were not entirely ‘honest’ shall we say but only partially so at best. I am not directly accusing you but from what I see as some significant flaws in your remarks.

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uncledon Featured By Owner Edited Feb 8, 2018

“I focus on the pleasing aspects because my illustrations are for kids, not adults.”

That was exactly the point I raised in my original comment asking if you were being open and fair but then you are not are you.

So you are aiding in childhood indoctrination by presenting a biased and flawed perspective in order to lull them into accepting the ideology under false pretense before they likely have reached the age of reason. Unless you are willing to present the full and complete breadth of the ideology you are in reality misleading them in order to perpetuate the mythology and maintain its power. You are acting in a false manner, offering what can only be described as ‘bearing false witness’ which according to your most basic tenets is a major sin.

Though you likely have manufactured a means to convince yourself that it isn’t or that doing so is ‘doing god’s work’.

 

1 Samuel 15:1-35

“And Samuel said to Saul, “The Lord sent me to anoint you king over his people Israel; now therefore listen to the words of the Lord. Thus says the Lord of hosts, ‘I have noted what Amalek did to Israel in opposing them on the way when they came up out of Egypt. Now go and strike Amalek and devote to destruction all that they have. Do not spare them, but kill both man and woman, child and infant, ox and sheep, camel and donkey.’” So Saul summoned the people and numbered them in Telaim, two hundred thousand men on foot, and ten thousand men of Judah. And Saul came to the city of Amalek and lay in wait in the valley.”

You’re not going to tell your audience of little kids  that your deity ordered people to “kill both man and woman, child and infant, ox and sheep, camel and donkey” are you? That might show them what they’re really getting into and give them the ‘wrong idea’.

 

Judges 11 : 30 - 39

“And Jephthah made a vow to the Lord: “If you give the Ammonites into my hands, whatever comes out of the door of my house to meet me when I return in triumph from the Ammonites will be the Lord’s, and I will sacrifice it as a burnt offering.” Then Jephthah went over to fight the Ammonites, and the Lord gave them into his hands. He devastated twenty towns from Aroer to the vicinity of Minnith, as far as Abel Keramim. Thus Israel subdued Ammon. When Jephthah returned to his home in Mizpah, who should come out to meet him but his daughter, dancing to the sound of timbrels! She was an only child. Except for her he had neither son nor daughter. When he saw her, he tore his clothes and cried, “Oh no, my daughter! You have brought me down and I am devastated. I have made a vow to the Lord that I cannot break.” “My father,” she replied, “you have given your word to the Lord. Do to me just as you promised, now that the Lord has avenged you of your enemies, the Ammonites. But grant me this one request,” she said. “Give me two months to roam the hills and weep with my friends, because I will never marry.” “You may go,” he said. And he let her go for two months. She and her friends went into the hills and wept because she would never marry. After the two months, she returned to her father, and he did to her as he had vowed. And she was a virgin.”

I most seriously doubt that you are going to tell them that your ‘god’ makes bargains that involve human sacrifice now are you? Please spare me any apologetics trying to spin this into what it is not because I have read the original Torah verse with a rabbi and if as you likely would claim this creature is omnipotent, all-knowing, then it had to know that Jephthah’s daughter would be what he first saw and you cannot have it both ways. Either this ‘god’ accepted a human sacrifice or the claim that it knows everything is a fraud.

Take your pick.

 

Luke 19:27

But those mine enemies, which would not that I should reign over them, bring hither, and slay them before me.”

I doubt you’d even allow them to read anything in that book terrified that might come across such passages without an apologist at hand to either stop them or to spin it into something entirely different.

I always ask people such as you if this is the ‘good book’ as they claim would they then allow me to read whatever I want to their small impressionable children. To date not one has ever accepted that challenge and very few even bother to respond preferring to play the exact same game you are involved in which is willful deception and biased indoctrination.

 

“It's okay to disagree, although I think you're missing the most important thing, which is that Jesus loved us all so much that he died for our sake, and preached forgiveness, grace and redemption.”

Yes, that is the myth but before you assert to me that it is real as you have done as well as by implication suggesting that I must accept this fantasy as real; i.e., claiming “that he died for our sake”, you must now provide a precise, objective, rational, verifiable demonstration in front of several reliable witness under clinical conditions while being recorded for further analysis that this being does in fact exist replete with the panoply of supernatural magical power it is claimed to possess. This cannot simply devolve into completely subjective rhetorical arguments that does not conform to the previously stated conditions as such does not meet them and is totally dependent on subjective acceptance of the premise under investigation as well as being able to be applied to any other invented deity part of another mythology.

Can you do these things or are you merely attempting to state your opinions / beliefs in a manner that implies they are real while asking everyone else to accept this without good reason?

To assert that I am “missing the most important thing” when that is little more than a baseless assertion founded solely on your blind faith in an unsubstantiated mythology in a ploy I find to be extremely presumptuous and improper. Yours is no different from the hundreds of similar ones that you ignore, dismiss and reject for no other apparent reason than this is the one you were indoctrinated into likely before you reached the age of reason and which you are aiding and abetting I might add.

You are in effect claiming without justification that I have no understanding of the fundamental premises of your ideology because I have dared to not swallow it wholesale and openly question its very foundational ideas. I have read your book from cover to cover along with nearly all of those of the other major religious mythologies and many of the minor ones. No rather I see the inherent evil stated clearly in your book and most others but we are speaking of yours as the direct characteristics of the alleged ‘god’ repeated over and again. I have viewed the immoral and unethical actions of great segments of your sect using the same type of cherry-picked passages to prop up their conduct as you do with nothing less than disgust. And I see the deceptive tactics such as you are using to feed children slanted propaganda rather than the full story to be ample reasons to ignore this fictional mythology and speak out against it.

 

“Thanks for letting me know and doing the right thing.”

My secularly derived, non-biblically founded, humanistic based ethics developed through careful reasoning provided me with no other option but to do so.

While the alleged ‘morals’ derived from the book you likely claim is the sole source of such offers nothing of the kind except ideas that are command fiat which could be changed on a whim as well as a ‘trump card’ to avoid taking such responsibility in reality or even considering that making an attempt to right one’s wrongs is even necessary. I speak of the rather petty construct of ‘forgiveness through prayer’ which is little more that talking to yourself, as clinical MRI studies have clearly demonstrated, to ask yourself if everything is okay then patting yourself on the back to congratulate yourself for a job well done when you did nothing at all.

If that sounds condescending then I point out that your previous remarks where you had the temerity to assert without cause or justification that your mythology is real and includes me regardless of my views on the matter. Sadly that is the exact same type of inherent religious supremacy that is but a small step away from religious intolerance and in fact bigotry which has and is responsible for the majority of the evil that has been the history of mankind. The idea that you can assert such when it quite clear that I have exactly zero interest in such ideas and fables shows that you are in fact trying to force feed others your views even if in a polite manner.

Do you smile and agree when a Muslim says that to you? Or a Mormon, provided you aren’t one? Or a…well the list is rather long.

I doubt that as at best you’d tell them that they’re wrong or more likely launch into a sermon as to how yours in the ‘one true faith’ and they need to get down on their knees and beg forgiveness for what amount to thinking for themselves.

 

Now, although I have a very, very good idea as to your likely response, are you going to do “the right thing” and start providing children with the real and full story or are you going to continue presenting them only with deceptive propaganda in effect ‘lying to them for the faith’?

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PrisonerOnEarth Featured By Owner Feb 22, 2018  Professional Digital Artist
Wow, nice essay. Your writing suggests that you're pretty smart. Good on you for doing your research, it's almost refreshing to have someone slam my beliefs when they've actually read the book they're criticising; I'd much rather that than the usual 'your beliefs suck because I said so' crap that usually happens.

Anyway, my response isn't going to be as in depth as yours, because for one thing I doubt that anything I write will change your mind, and for another thing I just don't feel like spending too much time on this, I'd rather be drawing or spending time with my family. So here's just a few real quick notes, more to prove that I read what you wrote than to try and come up with an awesome and irrefutable rebuttal (sounds like you enjoy a good rebuttal).

1. Yeah you made a good point, not all of my art is for little kids, some is for teenagers and adults. I could have been more clear on that, and would have if I'd known how much you'd tear apart my answer ;) So yes you're right, well done, MOST of my biblical art is for young children, but SOME of it is for more mature audiences. Maybe one day I'll deal with some more mature themes in my art for a more mature audience.

2. EVERYONE indoctrinates other people, both kids and adults, with their beliefs, on some level, whether they are doing it consciously or not. Even you. Even Saturday morning cartoons or the evening news are toting belief systems. I'm not doing anything wrong by sharing my beliefs, and if you think I am then you're a hypocrite, because you're sharing yours.

3. I've read the Bible from front to back too, did it when I turned 18 and decided I needed to fill in the gaps in my knowledge and decide whether my parents' beliefs would remain mine also. I had a lot of questions. I STILL have a lot of questions. I confess I'm not one of those Christians whose faith and belief is rock solid and unshakable. Fact is, sometimes I'm downright angry at God. But in the end I accept that the being who made the Universe knows a thing or two more than I do. Also I love Jesus. Sidenote: there's more written evidence that Jesus existed than there is that Julius Ceasar existed. Jesus, who preached love, grace, mercy, kindness, forgiveness etc. followed the God of the Old Testament, never once saying that God was wrong. It's interesting. I admit that a lot of the Old Testament events churn my stomach and fill me with questions as to why. I don't have all the answers, far from it.

4. I respect your service in the US marines, you obviously know more about the first hand horrors of war than I do, since I know nothing of that and can only imagine and try to understand what I'm told about it. 

5. There's guys that are way smarter than me that are much more worth your time if you want a challenging dialogue/debate. You could check out Josh McDowell, a staunch atheist turned Christian, William Lane Craig's reasonable faith website, Lee Strobel's apologetics, or even good old C.S.Lewis. Any of those guys are much smarter and wiser than I, and more inclined to challenge your intelligence than my simple fare (that is, if you really are after answers rather than just bent on going around on people's pages telling them how wrong they are with your big words).

Your writing gives me the impression you're angry, or maybe just hot under the collar, and if you're angry because you believe that I'm deliberately misleading people, then I don't mind your anger, because I too get angry when I believe people are being deliberately false. But I don't go around slamming people simply for having a different belief system to me, it's their choice. If you're hammering at me here on my page simply because I'm sharing what I honestly believe, you need to chill out.

I believe in being honest, but I also believe that children's minds are not yet ready to cope with/fully comprehend certain realities of this world such as sexual abuse, horrific murder etc. My art is not an attempt to deceive them or hide the truth, I'm simply withholding information that is best processed by a mature and grownup mind that will understand it better. Kinda the same reason I wouldn't want a child to watch an R-rated movie, and yeah, the Old Testament gets pretty R-rated, but I've already explained that to my own kids and am fully prepared to discuss such things with them if they come across such reading. In the meantime I'm not gonna be going 'hey Johnny, one time these guys raped a woman to death, then her husband chopped her up and sent her parts to the different tribes of Israel in order to muster up retaliation! Why do you think God lets those things happen, huh?!? Well, sweet dreams kiddo!'

P.S I won't go into it, because it's time for dinner, but Gideon was waaay before 480 BC, dude.
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